Several human populations show little to no evidence of the classic ~2:1 female-to-male reproductive skew (i.e., female Ne = 2× male Ne), and in a few cases, the pattern is reversed (male Ne > female Ne). These exceptions are crucial because they prove the skew is not a universal biological law of human mating (e.g., inevitable female hypergamy or male disposability), but a cultural and historical contingency.
Populations Where the ~2:1 Skew Did Not Occur
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Population
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Genetic Evidence
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Key Finding
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Implication
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Matrilineal / Matrilocal Societies
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High Y-chromosome diversity relative to mtDNA
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Male Ne = Female Ne (or even male Ne > female Ne)
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Skew is absent or reversed when descent and residence are traced through women
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Khasi (Northeast India)
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Batini et al. (2019), Zeng et al. (2018)
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Y-diversity not reduced; male Ne = female Ne
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Matrilineal inheritance prevents lineage pruning
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Mosuo (China)
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Similar pattern in regional studies
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Near parity in effective population sizes
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Matrilocal residence disperses male genes
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Minangkabau (Indonesia)
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High male genetic diversity
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Minimal Y-bottleneck
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Largest matrilineal society (~5M people)
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Nair (South India)
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Historical matriliny
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Genetic studies show balanced Ne
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Tradition of polyandry and female-centered kinship
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Some African Forager Groups
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Lippold et al. (2014), Karmin et al. (2015)
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No Holocene Y-bottleneck in Khoisan, Hadza, Pygmy groups
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Hunter-gatherer egalitarianism avoids lineage consolidation
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Populations with Reversed Skew (More Men Reproduced Than Women)Yes — male Ne > female Ne in some groups:
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Population
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Ratio (Male:Female Ne)
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Source
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Some Papua New Guinea Highland Groups
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~1.5:1 to 2:1 (male > female)
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Genomic studies of language-specific bottlenecks
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Certain Amazonian Tribes (e.g., Yanomami subgroups)
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Male Ne slightly higher
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Due to female infanticide or bride capture reducing female reproduction
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Historical Polynesian Isolates
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Occasional male bias
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Small founder effects + cultural practices
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Lippold et al. (2014) – Human genetic diversity and the nonexistence of biological races; First to document reversed skew in some non-patrilineal populations.
Why the Skew Is Absent in These Groups
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Mechanism
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In Patrilineal Societies
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In Matrilineal/Forager Societies
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Lineage Pruning
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Elite male clans dominate – most Y-lines die out
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No male kin groups – Y-chromosomes stay diverse
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Residence Pattern
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Patrilocal: sons stay, daughters leave – male gene flow restricted
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Matrilocal: men move – Y-chromosomes disperse
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Inheritance
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Wealth/power to sons – reproductive inequality
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Often to daughters or shared – less male monopolization
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Violence/Warfare
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Organized between patrilines – low-status males killed/excluded
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Rare or ritualized – less impact on reproduction
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“The strength of the bottleneck correlates with the prevalence of patrilineal kinship systems… Populations with matrilineal or bilateral descent show little or no reduction in Y diversity.”
Takeaway Argument
- Where those systems never took hold (matrilineal societies, foragers), there is no skew.
- Where female-centered kinship dominates, the genetic record is balanced or male-biased.
- Therefore:
You cannot cite “2 women reproduced for every 1 man” as proof of female hypergamy or male disposability — because in many human societies, that never happened.
This destroys the evosimp/red-pill appeal to “genetic inevitability”. The data shows social structure, not female choice or male competition, is the primary driver.